Timeline Follow-up Again
I received your follow up emails. I believe the answer is yes to your questions. If we work backwards from the Crisis, the age of the characters and the SF comics as our guide, it has to line up the way I worked it out on the paper. So if your cool with that lets streamline the wiki to follow those dates. Sound good?
I would say Wonder Woman os fine. But we may need to revist Superman and Batman. Most sources say that Bruce was 26 when he donned the cape and cowl. Yet that is never confirmed in the SF universe. We should however keep the date he puts on the cape and cowl the way it is. Also for Superman it's all up to how old we think he should be in 1957 when the Phantom zoners go back in time. I was thinking he was more like 14 or 15 not 17.
Birthdates, part 2
Understood. Back then, 9th grade was included. So lets say he was a young 14 in 55. This would make him 16 in 57. Beyond that, consider two things: One consider that Filmation is not primary canon. It's secondary. And then second, consider the age of Bruce and Clark in 80's. So maybe retool Superboy/Superman, but I'd keep Bruce the way it is. But at the end of the day, you can make the choice.
color coded info boxes
Hey man. Just fyi.. the info boxes for everyone's profile is color-coded. Like the Legion of Doom all has a specific color. And all villains are also Gray. So when you make a the name a hyperlink you have to change that and it messes up the color-coding throughout the wiki. I have noticed that other Pages do that but it's generally links to the disambiguation page when it does. On this wiki we place links like that on the top of pages so we can avoid messing up the color coding. Make sense? --Superman Fan (talk) 23:06, December 4, 2019 (UTC)
- Understood. If you did want it that way, we'd just have to come up with a new plan.
- --Superman Fan (talk) 00:17, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
Hey man. After watching the first few episodes of the SF, I got the impression the that the United States Government Building and the World Weather Headquarters were basically the same government building that housed different offices and functions .. with one branch being in Gotham (Too Hot to Handle) and one being in Miami (The Weather Maker). If so, I;d like to combine them. Thoughts?
Hey man. I wanted to let you know that I have been reading through the intros to the episodes in season one and I wanted to tell you that they are excellent!!
Sheesh! Sorry to hear that. Let me know how it goes.
Back at it
Good to see you barely skipped up beat. FYI.. I was feeling nostalgic the other day and I looked back at our very first edits. It looks like you started exactly one year before I did ... 11 years ago!! That's awesome! And I still enjoy it. Its good to have someone remain consistent along with you through the journey.
Ha! I know, right? funny.
Well I'm glad your mobile. Somewhat.
Looking forward to the next ten...
Holy Time Warp Batman!!
That's a real bummer man. Sorry to hear that. From someone who hurt his back pretty badly 10 years ago (one of the reasons I had the time to start working on this wiki), I can sympathize. I'm sure you'll be up and at it in few weeks.
Ya! totally crazy that I've been doing this so long. And that I was a child of the 80's .. go Stranger Things!
I'm a bonafied geek! And I work in construction too!
On a different note, I've color coordinated all super hero teams. So the JSA additions are great, but they are not part of the color coding. I get that you want the link at the top, but it doesn't work. That's why i started putting links at the top of the page.
Also, how do you know for sure that the Hall of Justice was in Metropolis when Season 2 started? I've seen the episode numerous times and have notes. None of which say its in Metropolis. What I learned from reading Issue #14 of the Super Friends (comic book), is that in the Earth-1A universe, Metropolis is 'right over the bridge' from Gotham. So why do we have to say that it was relocated to Metropolis? Why can't we say that it was slightly remodeled for Season 2 forward?
Thanks for the clarification.
Hey man. I was editing the Mars page and I saw your blurb about Mars being terraformed. What is your source?
Thanks for the Coney Island and Mars update.
As far as the video goes I'm not familiar with it, but I would save it to your personal collection if you can. It's cool.
RE: Background Information Section
Hey man. Looking for your input on the subsections under the background info. Take a look at the Atom page. I made those little drop-down menus for each the section. My question to you is what colors would you suggest? I like this Sleek silver and white look and it matches the background image pretty good. But the Super Friends also have color to them. My problem though is that too much color makes it look kitschy. Thoughts? --Superman Fan (talk) 17:10, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
Hey man. I was hoping to talk to you about the overall objective of the page. Now, as admin you can chase all the rabbits you want, but after 11 years plus of working on this page its still not complete. Meaning episodes and the SF comics are not complete. That's on me too. I think we, as a team would focus on the 'big picture' and try to complete what it is your working on now - the episodes. My personal objective is three fold lately ... they are .. in no particular order ... update most images with DVD quality images ... update all main character bios ... and complete the SF Comics. So , my request and encouragement is to pick an object that fits the big-picture for a while so we can get overall objective behind us, then focus on the rabbits. Make sense? Thanks again for all your hard work and diligence to make this wiki, not only the best SuperFriends wiki, but perhaps and good source of DC info too. --Superman Fan (talk) 14:23, February 22, 2020 (UTC)
Hey man. On the Computer Tyrants page your addition needs to be cited. The bio that I had originally was the only pre-crisis Earth One info we had on the computer tyrants. If U want to add post-crisis information you can certaibly do that but it needs to be explain as such and cited. Thanks. --Superman Fan (talk) 03:41, February 26, 2020 (UTC)
re: Computer Tyrants
I use the background information to provide known history for the various characters. Use Earth-One as a basis or foundtion for that history because E Nelson Bridwell did. He did his best to tie in Earth-One history of the SuperFriends Universe in the comic books. So I follow his lead. As far as filmation goes that's completely fine. But it's a secondary source to the SF TV show and the SF comic-book book. Beyond that I do my best to cite the source. Which are generally pre-crisis sources. For example in The Brainiac page I was very clear that according to Earth-One history Brainiac son was adopted. Also the planet of origin are called different things in different Series so I cited that as well. On the Atom page youll see that I work in Earth-One, Filmation and Earth-1A history. See also the Green Arrow and Toyman page as well. Also check out to Felix Faust. Generally speaking post-crisis sources are not relevant to this universe, but in his case i added some of that background on his page. In any event my point is that I cite everything. Which means that I read all those comic books for the most part and watch any relevant those episodes. --Superman Fan (talk) 12:06, February 26, 2020 (UTC)
re: Computer Tyrants
Yo! Before I answer your question let me be clear on what I'm trying to communicate.
I believe we need parameters, or guidelines to direct the content of the wiki. The word canon means standard or law, as if a line is drawn in the sand that you do not cross. That is what canon means. My standard is driven by E. Nelson Bridwell and his desire to tie the SF universe to Earth-One. So his assumption from the comics is that Earth-One is the main Background Information for all characters. That is why Filmation is lesser in my mind - because it was in E Nelsons mind when he wrote the SF comics. Another note, the pre-crisis retcons came after E.Nelsons tenure with DC comics, so it was tough at first for me to include them (although this is subjective and flexible). Yet, I finally decided the Crisis was the terminus for not only Earth-One, but also for Earth-1A, so I begin to incorporate the pre-crisis retcons.
In my mind, canon for Earth-1A should be:
- SF cartoon
- SF Comic
- Pre-crisis Comics referenced by E. Nelson Bridwell
Canon for Earth-1B (hypothetical as the below comics may or may not deviate from above canon):
- Super Powers Comics.
Yes I'm aware that according to our Earth-1A page, that one of the DC comic encyclopedia combined much of the above into Earth-Thirty-Two.
You should check out the character pages I listed above if you haven't yet. You'll see on the Toyman page that the Earth-1A info on character trumps the characters info from Earth-One and his untimely demise.
Now concerning your question... if I were to change my standard for canon, it would probably have to be a bonified attempt on the part of DC to create a SF story that was set during pre-crisis times ... not just an Earth-One/Earth-Two character time-traveling/revisiting his pre-crisis stomping grounds.
RE: Computer Tyrants page
By the way, the citations are great! I apologize if I reached out to you before you were done.
This was my answer: It would probably have to be a bonified attempt on the part of DC to create a SF story that was set during pre-crisis times ... not just an Earth-One/Earth-Two character time-traveling/revisiting his pre-crisis stomping grounds.
By bona fide attempt ... I mean an actual Earth 1A story. Which would mean I would have to change the way I see Canon.
Make sense now?
missed my point
Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying it has to be official. Not a YouTube video by a fan.
Specifically footnote 22 to see how I understand earth One in relation to Earth-1a.
Speaking of Star Trek (and to your point) Im really enjoying Picard set in the Prime reality. It 'feels' like Star Trek. So much more than Discovery. Didnt even finish the first season.